Morale over Matter
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August 6th, 2009 at 6:26 am
What is supposed to do a soldier if he receives an order that is uncompatible with morale and human rights?
For example, if a German soldier ,during WW2, wanted to refuse to execute the orders given by his Nazi officer ( for example, to kill a civilian)…, because he understood it was totally wrong…Or a French solider during Algerian War, or an Isreali soldier in Palestine, etc,etc…
Is there a morale, for a soldier? Or only orders and "national duty" matter?
What the military officers (generals, amirals,etc) and philosophes think about it?
Thank you in advance
August 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
You follow all orders because peoples lives are on the line.
Don’t question orders. Even if your conscience tells you to.
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:30 am
i mean everybody his standards and things you won’t do
but the person shots a civilian maybe doesn’t care and say "orders are orders" the person who doesn’t do thinks this isn’t right and won’t do but would be accused for treason and executed themselves
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
The US military goes by Law Of Armed Conflict. If you are given an order to kill a civilian and you know that it is an illegal/wrong act and you commit the act you can be charged with a crime. You are suppose to take it up the chain if command if there is a known problem.
Other nations armies go by different rules.
Nazi’s were committing genocide. So I would imagine if a subordinate was given an order to kill and did not do so, they were probably reprimanded or even killed themselves.
Hope this helped
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Hi Allan,
1) Ideally you should refuse, tell his officer it is wrong and refuse to do it and walk away. If the officer gets nasty and threatening you should turn his gun on your officer.
2) Practically this may well not work as you are heavily trained and indoctrinated to fear your officers and superiors more than the enemy. If you take the time to reason and think of the repercussions, especially in a war situation you’ll likely as not chicken out and follow orders.
Cheers,
Michael Kelly
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:36 am
You do have a right to disobey any order that conflicts the Uniform Code of Conduct. But I like to add that old saying "Show me a bad outfit, I’ll show you bad leaders" In the type of war we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s important this country do not lose our moral compass. For every person we mistreat, it’s another terrorist recruit
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
If an order is illegal immoral or unjust a US soldier can request to bring it up to the chain of command, but if it is judged to be none of those things then that soldier can be put on trial for failure to obey an order or regulation under UCMJ
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August 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
This is really good and debatable question.
The humanity is standing on one side and on the other side,order and regularity.Which one is more important?
when it comes to my idea , I think I would have to execute that order since if I did not, I may damage my country more that I do not want to do
Best regards.
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